Plato on Love

October 7, 2008 by Vince Lin  
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Dimitry, citing Plato’s Symposium on Love:

It might be irrelevant here, but the term “Platonic Love” comes from Plato’s famous philosophical dialog “Symposium” (A MUST reading for any thinking person). In that dialog Plato gives probably the only definition of love in the history of human thought that can be considered as valid. Platonic Love is the complete realization of the unity of souls between the two human beings, in which they both perceive God in each other. This kind of love means complete trust, complete self-sacrifice, complete compassion, complete mutual belonging, and it can occur between two people of any gender as sexual partners or friends. So in the state of Platonic Love sex is an option but not a requirement, therefore essentially the Platonic Love can either take a form of deepest friendship or deepest romantic relationship. Therefore, the Platonic Love is the highest achievable form of friendship AND sexual love equally, the absolute form of love achievable in the material world, and as you can see, it has nothing to do whatsoever with a situation when the two people hardly know each other and make small talk.

Mastermind Alliance Philosophy

September 29, 2008 by Vince Lin  
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Alliance philosophy
The purpose of our existence is to increase our survival and replication value. Everything we do in life refers back to this fundamental purpose. To deny this is to deny the very reason for our existence. People may argue about life, morals and being happy, however this is the fundamental reason on a biological level of why we are here, and we are governed by these laws of nature. Read more

FR – Bad blowouts, but I know exactly what I did wrong

September 28, 2008 by Vince Lin  
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Have you ever asked someone a question to which you already know the answer to? That’s what it felt like last night as I was thinking about this. Usually, I’d get really serious and think about what went wrong, and wreck my brain over it.

As I went to sleep I realized all of the mistakes I made, but I wanted to detail them out here – just on a very logical level so this doesn’t happen again.

11:15- arrive at Ambassador. Guest list only – apparently there’s a huge private event going on. We hit Rye across the street, and Stone and I play a game of pool as we wait for Shogun. Actually the pool game was kind of a DHV, everyone else was standing around being bored and we got glances from a few girls that were interested. There was some Indian party going on, I didn’t open any sets as non of the girls were that cute. Bad excuse, should have practiced anyway.

11:40 – Shogun and my favorite maverick RockNRoll show up. We grab a round, shoot the shit and move on to Le Colonial.

This place was packed, and it was loud. I opened one dancing set, didn’t stick, was getting some AA. Lost everyone else, realized i wasn’t in the vibe for dance/physical game, left on my own. Hit up Cantina. There’s a girl in this area wearing a brown hat, who says she lost her wallet and need 20 to get back home. Talked to another guy who said the same girl chatted him up and asked him for money. For the record – don’t get fooled by her she’s just working you.

Cantina was cool, we ended up merging with an Asian group, who pretty much tagged us for the next party. I explain we have to go but they follow us to Clift hotel anyway. Clift, I open my frist sets (getting AA today). Here are my sets for the rest of the night. It was pretty obvious that AA and bad openers closed me out for the night, and there’s really no one else to blame but myself.

Set 1
Blonde milf hits my shoulder – I playfully hit her back
Me “This is not a fight you know. Although I’d win if it was”
Her: “Oh I’m sorry. It is crowded in here” turns around a little bit to disengage from the 2 guys she was talking to
Me: “Unless of course you were hitting on me”
Her: “I….. highly doubt that”
I brace myself for the rejection. Ouch. Too direct, while she was in set.

Set 2
Australian milf stops me, says hi, introduces me to aussie guy friend, who she met that night. She was testing me to see if I was more alpha than him and who to go home with. I escalate a little bit but overall the conversation was too needy and it didn’t stick

I was too needy here, should have engaged the guy friend and pushed her away a little bit to make her chase me. She lost interest soon after the yarn was no longer being dangled.

Set 3
Tall brunette milf, dances with me a little, bitchy friend. I diffuse by saying she’s loyal and I’m like that with my friends too, she warms up and then reveal they are both married and say good bye

Fun set, nothing more I could have done.

Set 4
2 asian girls, follows us to the same restaurant –
me, ‘ you guys are stalking us arent you’
hb: ‘no you’re stalking us!”
Inside restaurant, “hey stalker girl”. Get ignored and the other one gives a weak smile and goes back to eat

Set 5
2 HB8 brunettes outside
me “hi!”
HBs ignore me, one of them says hi as they are walking by into the restaurant

Body language was off, should have more forcefully stopped but it was end of the night and maybe an opinion opener would have been better

Set 6
Hb8 and HB6 at sidewalk
This is where I actually follow game
Opinion opener on my style
Sticks.
I kino HB8, Stone wings
She’s hold my hand behind my back
Good convo
Before we can nclose, she says her guy friend is over there and says sorry, she has to go
I wasn’t sure if this set was stoppable given the interrupt, and we lost it at that.

Lessons learned
1. Stone was a huge factor in me staying positive
2. When opening, be forceful and deliberate
3. AA happens, better to get it out early in the night rather than later
4. normal AFC openers dont work for me. Either go direct or do an opinion opener
5. Overall, AA got the best of me and a deviation from game and going with normal AFC openers cemented the night for me.

Mastermind Alliance

September 22, 2008 by Vince Lin  
Filed under Learn about Pickup

The Purpose of a Master Mind Alliance

According to Napoleon Hill, “a Master Mind Alliance is the coordination of knowledge and effort, in a spirit of harmony, between two or more people, for the attainment of a definite purpose.”

We wrote down our goals in life (5 minutes), on a piece of paper of where we wanted to be in 3 years. We then wrote down where we are now from a 3rd person perspective. 1 by 1, we went around the room and each one of us gave insight into what we facing, the “walls” and “barriers” and how to over come them. In some cases, we pointed out over dreaming or “wishing” instead of planning out specific events.

It was interesting getting people’s thoughts on what they thought our barriers were as opposed to our own thoughts of what our walls are. In some cases, the answers were very different.

Our Mastermind Alliance had the following rules:

Rule 1. All members must make a commitment to improve their lives. Without this commitment, noting is possible.

Rule 2. Subjects will focus on the 3 areas of development in Wealth, Health and Love

Rule 3. No negative or nonconstructive criticisms will be allowed. Either offer a solution or do not speak at all. Negativity towards other members will not be tolerated.

Rule 4. Respect and a general level of confidentiality is required for all group members

Rule 5. The group will remain small, with less than 12 people to stay focused and to build trust among its members

Rule 6. Please do not talk about other member’s lives outside of this group. Details discussed outside of the confine of this alliance can only be disclosed with the expressed permission of the originator.

Rule 7. This is an experiment. In the event that this does work, we will support other groups like ours to the extent possible. If this fails, we have lost nothing but a moment of our time.

8 and final rule. If a member permanently leaves the group, he must have a statement of what he has gained while being a member, and outline his new path and how s/he will continue to develop himself/herself. If this is your first night at the alliance meeting, you have to share your life goals with the team

Round 4: Day 1

September 22, 2008 by Vince Lin  
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Starting over from 0. This time for real.

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