San Diego / LA FR and LR and Lessons Learned
Original Post by AlphaWolf
This weekend marked a cumulative of vacation days that marked my first year back in the prison as an office worker. Thus I was eager to get back out there and do what I do best. Vacation mode “Alphawolf” was much more fun than “work alphawolf”
My 2 wings that accompanied on this trip were Serum and Thunder God (We’ll call him T.G. for short). Serum is my cousin, who was my original inspiration for moving out here to the bay. Without him I would have never made any progress into dating and girls. TG was a previous wing and a good friend, who always displayed a positive attitude despite tough situations and we thought we would hit it off. They were both easy going guys, and I saw no reason why we would not get along. This would also be a good test of my judge of character.
The night before we head out, TG meets Serum and I in downtown Palo Alto. We open a few good sets, although nothing solid. There were a couple of girls we could have taken home, had we stuck in the set. Serum was with a buddy of his. He’s an Asian male model, but has no game. Couldn’t do anything, so we had to cover for him. Goes to show that game and looks don’t always go hand in hand in this game. TG manages to pull a lone wolf black girl (engaged). I leave him be and pick him up the next day, we head to the airport.
Lesson: Girls will do this “hair play” gesture brushing and tucking in their hair and then setting in on their shoulder and petting it. It is a sign of flirting. Treat this as a light IOI.
DJ Fuji
On the way to LA, we met DJ Fuji for an early dinner. He was dressed casually as he took a break from his coaching sessions and joined near downtown LA.
I spoke to Fuji before, even met him in person, but never really got to hangout with him. He was pretty calibrated. I’m not sure if he did this on purpose or it has become autopilot for him. We got to ask him a couple of questions related to game and life. Here are my main takeaways:
- Me: “I like to think of it as I like her and she likes me, isn’t it that simple?” Fuji: No. That’s just naive. Do what works.
- Process over outcome – good game is good game
- Outsourcing cooking and cleaning to work on business (good idea)
- HB9s and 10s flaking on me. Fuji says: “Yes you’re right. On some level, these other guys are out competing you in the “consideration” categories. Be it their body, job, money, or some other psychological dimension. Your job as a PUA is to figure out what that is and to calibrate and fix it.
- On Racism: “At least you’re tall. Fucker.”
- Fuji: “There is a social value parity with 9s and 10s sometimes. That’s why we learn game. To disparage the parity. The attraction switches still hold, and extend to your life style.”
- Fuji: “Push-Pull can be very counter intuitive. Needs practice to really understand.”
- Fuji: “Except for Professional Dating Coaches and naturals, text game is currently not taught well. You cannot learn proper, A-level text game from a synthetic, unless he’s a coach already.”
- Fuji: “Work on your handshake, it should be firm and subcommunicate that you’re a man”
- Fuji: “Don’t be cheap. Socially. I.e. don’t brag about the money you saved at the restaurant”
The Banana Bungalow Hostel and What to Expect in “Hostel Situations”
When we arrived, check-in was pretty standard, 2 room keys. There are about 8 guys and 4 girls we saw on the deck, about 20-30 people, full house during summer time. I made a quick tour and introduced myself to everyone. When you put your energy out there, others with similar energy tend to gravitate towards you. I do believe this. I made good friends with this British guy called Adam. Serum would later chat with him some more and learn that’s he has a burgeoning curiosity in game, although most would consider Adam, a Clive Owen look-alike a natural.
The guys are the hostel are all pretty cool. There are the crazy energy guys who jump around and scream at the top of their lungs, and then pass out towards the end of the night. There are the dazed and fazed weed smokers, who’ve been on “vacation mode” for so long they are like vacation zombies. For the most part, they have no game or calibration, however in these environments, all you really need is to throw your energy out there and let others catch it.
The girls come and go and every day it is a different group. Befriend the girl’s girlfriends. A private room helps, as there are 8-20 beds in some of these rooms and its hard to get it on, although if the girl liked you, you could probably just get on with it. On their first day here, some of the Norwegian girls looks DTF, however we noticed they wandered from group to group and never stayed too long. They were trying to get to know everyone before giving it up. In this case, take you time. Recognize the time wasters versus the girls who are really DTF. Then there were the CRAZY fucked up girls who didn’t even make logical sense, drank all day and partied. There was one of such who was super hot and I gamed her for a bit, but couldn’t get a cohesive compliance chain to make anything happen
Pacific Beach Douchebags and Hotties
Try. Try and fail, but at least try. That was the motto of the night. The dudes here were big, muscle types. Frat boys. They had their own sense of style and we didn’t completely “Fit” into this type of breed. Nonetheless, the girls were smoking hot. We got into a lot of sets, but a lot of them blew up in our faces. The rejections are harsh if you are un-calibrated and the guys will AMOG you so expect an amog battle if the girls are with guys. We finally get into a bar and we run some game. I open a girl who look like she’s from the mission in SF and we chat for a bit. She later introduces me to her friends, who all are super hot. We exchange facebooks as nothing was going to come of it. Another 3 set on the street and a latina girl who wants to fuck leads us to another dance club next to the bungalow. This place is cracking and its a great place to pull. We close down the place and everyone is ushered out, and guys are still trying to pull on the street. I run game till 2:30 and Serum goes to sleep. TG goes to the beach and jumps in the water, that crazy dude. We call it a night.
The next morning we couldn’t find TG and Serum and I went to get breakfast. We separate to goto the zoo. Oh by the way, the Simple Pick Up guys will find plenty of MILFs in the San Diego Zoo to film.
In the late afternoon, Clive Owen and I do some day gaming and I show him how I approach sets. He does one too. The guy has got mad game. Naturally. He doesn’t even know what he’s doing right but he’s doing it right. I explain to him the concept of IOIs and Transition and he seems to just get it instinctively. This was what Fuji was talking about. I do think that he’s wrong about it being hard to pull in a hostel because of the high guy to girl ratio. Most of those guys have no game. You let them bump their buying temperature and wait until they get out of steam, then you swoop in with solid game. It can be done.
Downtown San Diego Pull
How I managed a ONS and achieved my goal of getting some this weekend was an interesting story and there are many perspectives on this. I’ll just share my own. TG started talking to 2 Austrian girls at the patio. I took a quick rest after day gaming and I realized that I was doing regular casual game, but instead should be running more caveman game here in PB. I was relating friend to friend instead of man to woman. So, I tuned up the sexual nature. I enter the TG’s 2 set and immediately start looking at the girls like I want to eat them. Interestingly they get amused by this. TG picks the taller, more stacked brunette and I take the light skinny blonde. Perfect, just my type.
We end up getting dinner and later on, we take a walk on the beach. My HB8 start talking to Clive Owens and I realized that I may have to compete with him. I don’t really care since there are plenty of girls downtown. Clive is cool though he told me later he doesn’t care, and that competition among friends is never good. Stand up guy. We hit up Atmosphere lounge with skyline city views 7 of us – 2 HBs, TG, Serum, Me, Clive, and Sara, a “lesbian” blonde who has traveled a lot in hostels. At the sky lounge things get heavy. TG and I isolate our girls and it gets touchy and feely. The girls drink and smoke way too much. I do neither, except 1 drink and the rest of the night was water for me. “I love green tea” I would say. Anyway at this point my girl is mad gaming and playing hard to get. At one point she said, “you know, I shouldn’t say this”. “What?” “Nevermind…. it’s…. well…. I don’t feel like you really like me”.
Me: “Why do you think I’m still here?”
Serum, Lesbian Blonde and Clive get ready to hit up another place and ask if we want to come. I said wait to my girl and go talk to them. “Sorry guys, looks like we’re trying to pull. But hey it was really cool hanging out as a group eh?” I go back in between the conversation to my blonde. “Are you sure we can go back half and hour early so I can give you that massage?” She nods, “yes”. I then go back to my group and say goodbye. To me, I was communicating to her that if she doesn’t want to get down, I’m leaving right now, and I was going to because it was my last night here.
TG and I chill for a big and hit the bathroom to plan the bounce. We bounce them to a closely dance bar and start dancing and grinding with our girls. They drink like fishes. Anyway1:30 comes along and we catch a ride back. The cab driver is cool and knows we are going to get laid so he turns the music way up and the girls start shaking and singing. Dumb bitches. LOL.
When we get back, TG’s girl is hungry. My girl wants to get burritos. So we go. Randomly I see Josh from the SD lair at 7-eleven of all places. This kid’s got bite marks on his chest. “Yo alphawolf!”. Shit. Didn’t know anyone knew me by that name here!
Some social proof. I realized that when you have a hot girl in your arm other girls look at you like you’re the most awesome thing. It’s like you grew a pair of tits. They just stare at you much like a guy stares at a hot chick when she walks by. Interesting.
My girl is still playing games with me, throwing out lines like, “if you respect me, you wouldn’t put out my cigarette”. etc. I was getting tired of this shit. I want her, but I don’t need her. Back at the hostel we eat while TG pulls. I tell my girl to relax, her friend will call her back she’s just enjoying herself. After they are done, they take our seats and the food in the TV/living room and I tell my girl its time for that massage. She still plays hard to get and goes out to smoke again on the patio.
“I’m not hooking up with you”, Hb8 blonde says
I laugh,
HB8: “I am serious”
Me: “Fine. Then I want something else in return”
Me: “You give me a massage afterward”
HB8: “Fine.”
We chatter for a bit but honestly I’m getting bored and tired of playing her games. She starts chatting up some other dudes. Luckily they have no game and Serum and TG are around to wing if anyone did.
After about 10 minutes, at this point I walk up and say, “Ok. I’m going now. I’ll give you a massage if you still want it. Otherwise I’m going to sleep”. I didn’t even wait for a response and just turned around and started walking. She says, “can you wait a little bit?” Somehow I sense this was the moment that I knew, beyond a reasonable doubt, that she was DTF. We go to my room and then she says, ” wait, let me change”.
“Why did you lock the door?”, she said on the way out. I just looked and stared and said nothing. I think this was a shit test. My thoughts were, “for privacy”, but what a dumb question to ask. Irrelevant.
It took her a really long time, like 15 minutes to change. I was out chatting with the boys, prepping Serum for he’s giving up his room for me for an hour and it was already 2:30am.
She starts walking to my room, I see her, and I follow. We close the door. Shirt off, bra off. Massage time. 10 minutes. My turn. We’re done. “Lets cuddle like high schoolers” Laughter. She’s comfortable. “So, we’re not in the club anymore right?” “Yeah” (She didn’t want to do public make outs). Make out. Good kisser. It was very comfortable. From there, no resistance. Bra off, skirt off, panties off.
The bed squeaked like crazy so we used the bathroom and it was uncomfortable. We ended up on the mat on the floor. I had to cushion her head against the floor so she wouldn’t get hurt. This was probably one of the finer girls I’ve laid in a while. Perfect skinny model. Tight ass. Soft skin, button nose.
Afterward we hung out for a bit outside and chatted and she snuggled next to me when we went to sleep. In the morning she left (I figured the snoring got loud) and we got breakfast (same group). Leading a group can be fun and arduous at the same time.
Lessons learned:
- Chase, but be outcome independent. Intent is high, but results oriented mindset is not.
- Have a cut off point – a point of no return, where you stop negotiating with the girl. That’s your breaking point, stick to it, and she’ll stick to you. Sometimes girls will test how far you will go and do crazy shit just so you can say “stop crazy bitch! We’re going home now and we’re going to cuddle. End of story”
- The day after TG got his girl to tell me about my girl. She wasn’t planning to fuck me, but she did after the massage because it was so relaxing. And she came once already via oral. Apparently I am the only guy who has made her cum since she got the US. So just do your girl a favor and make her cum once before sticking it in, she’ll be a lot more appreciative.
- Some girls just lay there and let guys do the work. These hostel girls know how to move. It makes fucking a lot more fun.
- If you want a GF, make eye contact during sex. Say, “you know I like you, right?” If you don’t, don’t. She may not feel the same way so its ok to put it out there. It goes both ways.
- Leading a group, with hot girls, raises your value in the whole bar. We were owning the place. On the way to the bathroom girls were stopping and opening us. We stuck with our girls because it was a sure thing for TG, and I didn’t want to abandon him. I was close, however, to leaving my girl if she kept up resistance after the rest of the group left.
On The Way Back Home
The way home was chill. The boys hung out and we hit up Le Jolla beach. Rich white town. MILFs and kids.
What if this was every weekend? No wonder dating coaches learn so much – compacting tons of experience into a short time frame. Unlike a class or textbook, this is practical, real, in field experience that crystallizes and compounds one’s “experience factor “
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I learned few things from this FR/LR that I already knew prior.
1.)Chics will test(as the girl seemed to have been doing with you AlphaWolf).
2.)HB’s have short attention span and easily jump from set to set(of guys).
3.)It’s pretty hard to bounce a chic alone without her friends cockblocking or tagging along..
Testing is part of the girl’s programming to see if she is attracted to you.
True.But some gurus nowadays teach that women don’t test,as if shit tests are fallacies.I never met a chic who didn’t text.
Ok,at the moment when you proceeded to bounce and she called you back(the massage chic),you knew it was on instantly,or you still had to put up with major LMR?
No LMR after that, the tonality in which I said ,”Or I’m going to sleep” was pretty final and I meant it.
Ok cool.I learned a few things from this FR.
BTW Vince,check you spam folder on the blog and approve my comments.
Some how,all my comments go to spam now until the admin of that blog approve my comment.
Cool man, thanks