FR – Bad blowouts, but I know exactly what I did wrong

Have you ever asked someone a question to which you already know the answer to? That’s what it felt like last night as I was thinking about this. Usually, I’d get really serious and think about what went wrong, and wreck my brain over it.

As I went to sleep I realized all of the mistakes I made, but I wanted to detail them out here – just on a very logical level so this doesn’t happen again.

11:15- arrive at Ambassador. Guest list only – apparently there’s a huge private event going on. We hit Rye across the street, and Stone and I play a game of pool as we wait for Shogun. Actually the pool game was kind of a DHV, everyone else was standing around being bored and we got glances from a few girls that were interested. There was some Indian party going on, I didn’t open any sets as non of the girls were that cute. Bad excuse, should have practiced anyway.

11:40 – Shogun and my favorite maverick RockNRoll show up. We grab a round, shoot the shit and move on to Le Colonial.

This place was packed, and it was loud. I opened one dancing set, didn’t stick, was getting some AA. Lost everyone else, realized i wasn’t in the vibe for dance/physical game, left on my own. Hit up Cantina. There’s a girl in this area wearing a brown hat, who says she lost her wallet and need 20 to get back home. Talked to another guy who said the same girl chatted him up and asked him for money. For the record – don’t get fooled by her she’s just working you.

Cantina was cool, we ended up merging with an Asian group, who pretty much tagged us for the next party. I explain we have to go but they follow us to Clift hotel anyway. Clift, I open my frist sets (getting AA today). Here are my sets for the rest of the night. It was pretty obvious that AA and bad openers closed me out for the night, and there’s really no one else to blame but myself.

Set 1
Blonde milf hits my shoulder – I playfully hit her back
Me “This is not a fight you know. Although I’d win if it was”
Her: “Oh I’m sorry. It is crowded in here” turns around a little bit to disengage from the 2 guys she was talking to
Me: “Unless of course you were hitting on me”
Her: “I….. highly doubt that”
I brace myself for the rejection. Ouch. Too direct, while she was in set.

Set 2
Australian milf stops me, says hi, introduces me to aussie guy friend, who she met that night. She was testing me to see if I was more alpha than him and who to go home with. I escalate a little bit but overall the conversation was too needy and it didn’t stick

I was too needy here, should have engaged the guy friend and pushed her away a little bit to make her chase me. She lost interest soon after the yarn was no longer being dangled.

Set 3
Tall brunette milf, dances with me a little, bitchy friend. I diffuse by saying she’s loyal and I’m like that with my friends too, she warms up and then reveal they are both married and say good bye

Fun set, nothing more I could have done.

Set 4
2 asian girls, follows us to the same restaurant -
me, ‘ you guys are stalking us arent you’
hb: ‘no you’re stalking us!”
Inside restaurant, “hey stalker girl”. Get ignored and the other one gives a weak smile and goes back to eat

Set 5
2 HB8 brunettes outside
me “hi!”
HBs ignore me, one of them says hi as they are walking by into the restaurant

Body language was off, should have more forcefully stopped but it was end of the night and maybe an opinion opener would have been better

Set 6
Hb8 and HB6 at sidewalk
This is where I actually follow game
Opinion opener on my style
Sticks.
I kino HB8, Stone wings
She’s hold my hand behind my back
Good convo
Before we can nclose, she says her guy friend is over there and says sorry, she has to go
I wasn’t sure if this set was stoppable given the interrupt, and we lost it at that.

Lessons learned
1. Stone was a huge factor in me staying positive
2. When opening, be forceful and deliberate
3. AA happens, better to get it out early in the night rather than later
4. normal AFC openers dont work for me. Either go direct or do an opinion opener
5. Overall, AA got the best of me and a deviation from game and going with normal AFC openers cemented the night for me.

Las Vegas May 2008 LR and FR

I arrived in Las Vegas on a sunny Saturday to attend a Mon-Wed conference for work. I felt a little excited, but also a little scared. It has been a while since I traveled. I posted a message on the MM Forums hoping to meetup with any of the PUAs out there in the area.

It turns out, most of my friends who are also in Vegas have things to do, and I was stuck by myself on Saturday. Ok. I decided that I was going to go out and solo it anyway. I walked around in the afternoon, talked to some people and walked from Harrah’s to the Bellagio fountains. I noticed that sets opened easily in Vegas, as everyone was on vacation. However, they almost don’t stick, since every pretty much talks to everybody and assumes and tourist-visiting “what’s going on in Vegas” conversation.

Ironically, my friends flaked, and I get a call from a PUA in Vegas. I meet J AKA VegasBabeHunter at Harrah’s. My first impression of him was pretty solid, a good looking guy and easy to talk to. J was a lot older than I am, having been a natural who then married and went through a divorce. His energy, however was youthful and fun, and I felt at ease.

J and I hit up a cool lounge to meetup with 2 other PUAs. I didn’t know any of them, so I opened a few sets first. When we sat down to introduce ourselves, I met Nevious. Nevious seemed like a guy who studied a lot of material and liked to break down stuff. These guys, in my experience are either really good or too into the material. My first impression of him was that he was really in analyzing the situations. There was another PUA who was new to the game, and we tried pushing him into a few sets. He seemed like a nice guy. Inside the lounge, we open all the sets available. I engage a bachelorette party, and I am in. One of the married girl’s girlfriends is from LA and I n-close her. I also n-close a cute black girl outside of the bar, and HB8Star girl (24, a kid she looked like she was 16 with curly brown hair). I was doing pretty well. It must be Vegas.

We decide to go to a few more bars, where Nevious takes us. A lot of girls here are less “high class vegas” and more local, as well as more ‘rocker and goth”. I did not do as well here. We then hit up a Matrix-like (San Francisco) bar, and this is where I got to witness Nevious’ game. We decide to interrupt a set with a guy and 2 girls smoking outside. The HB Brunette is smoking hot. I go out and open about some random Vegas tourist question, and transition to San Francisco and the gay culture. I slightly negged the guy by saying I thought he was gay, to tease out his relationship with the girls. He gets offended, I calibrate and say, “well no offense you are a good looking guy”. At this point the 2nd girl HB7 black girl starts giving me IOIs. I isolate, and we end up making out against the wall as HB8 brunette continues to talk to Nevious. She was gorgeous. We didn’t close the brunette, but I was beginning to see Nevious’ awesome winging skills.

We end up at hard rock cafe. This place was interesting. We engage a few sets. There was a 5 set that I engaged with another girl getting married. I open with, “Hey, congratulations!”. The bachelorette shouts back, “Yeah!” Me, “Where’s the ring?” Run Badboy ring routine. False time constraint, I sit down, lean back, and tell the story and hold court. Everyone gets really involved, and I am in. These girls are pretty cute. I continue talking to them for about 15 minutes, Nevious comes in. We realized that these girls are all married or have boyfriends, so no close here. We exit. It was a beautiful open and good flash game. As time approaches 3 am, I open an Asian girl, she ends up giving me her bracelet, but then goes cold. I think she’s working. Another cute HB9 girl standing by herself looking at me. I open,

“Hi, how are you?”
HB: “good, how are you!?”
Me: “Pretty good. What are you doing later?”
HB: “going back with you!”
Me: “ok, slow down there I am not that easy”
HB: “here’s my card”
I actually did not look at the card.
We talk for 5 minutes. Nevious comes in, “Sorry, I REALLY have to talk to you R”
Me: “really, give me 5 minutes, will you?”
Nevious: “It is REALLY, REALLY important”
I get pissed now I think he’s trying to fuck me out of an awesome set!
Me: “Dude this better be good”
Nevious: “She’s working”
Me: “What?”
Nevious: “She’s a hooker, there are a lot of them here in Vegas”
Me: “No way”
Nevious: “Look at her card”
I pull out a card with her half naked picture and phone number. OK. Case closed. lol. The rest of the night, all the girls at the Hardrock were working. We tried gaming them, but game doens’t work on prostitutes. We vowed to find a way to game prostitutes in the future.

Sunday
I went out with my team, had dinner and did some tourist things like visit Cesar’s palace and the Bellagio. I go to sleep early to prepare for the conference.

Monday
Game on. Nevious, J and his female PUA wing comes out. We start out at Tao Lounge, and meet up with 5 HB8+ girls who I met from the Bay. PUAs hold their own. However, I made some mistakes. I had mad social proof, having gamed the waitress before on the phone, she recognized me and was giving me a lot of attention. HB9 Brunette who I knew sits next to me, says I smell good, and I kino and continue conversation. Nevious tells me to isolate. I do, and I try to go for the kiss. Too soon. She says, “not now”. Soon after, one of the other girls pulls the other girls and says she wants to dance. As I was getting a drink from the bar, I come back and realize they all left. Interesting. I was slightly offended because these were my friends. Embarrasing.

This hit me pretty hard at that particular moment, for 2 reasons. One, I just lost my opportunity to close a really cool HB9 girl friend. Two, it was rude of friends to leave without even saying good bye – were we that insignificant? Three, it was a bad rep for me to the other PUAs – I should have more value in the friends I introduce.

Nevious, J and her female PUA friend (we’ll call her K) was supper supportive, and give me advice on the situation. Basically, I texted “you know friends are supposed to say good bye when leaving…tsk tsk”. I get an apology from HB9 brunette, but not any of the other girls. I put it aside, and we hit other bars. Venetian was happening. Tao lounge was good, we opened a few sets, mostly industry people getting off work so it was somewhat professional. We hit Cat House. Oh man. Industry night. Almost all of the girls here are hot. Wow. I was on fire. I open a HB9/10 and she is ALL over me. I couldn’t close her because her “girlfriend” showed up and claimed her as her sex partner. She did say she was lesbian. I pivot K into a 3 set and n-close one of the girls. I run into another girl from the conference, she gives me her card and says call her later as she’s with her coworkers. (I end up running into her a the conference and she was disappointed I didn’t call). A few other sets- and a lot of kino – this was a high energy dance club game. It was a little sad to see how they swindled the AFC guys for top “sugar daddy” money. There were a few guys with a lot of style with a group of girlfriends. Industry guys (entertainment industry) – I befriend a few to get some social proof. The girls were hot. There was no denying this. I have never seen that many HB8+ in one place before.

We end up leaving eventually, and hit one of the bars nearby at the hotel. It was funny. I show K Matador’s hand routine. Nevious tries to amog a 2 set blonde. The energy was awesome, we were just vibing off everyone’s knowledge and having a good time.

J ends up dropping me off, and Nevious and I continue! We goto Carnival Court – he opens one of those working girls. I wing. We open a 2 set on the street – they stick! We talk for 15 minutes, girls are open to taking us back to their hotel for drinks. But, they weren’t that hot and one of them was pretty fat, so someone had to take the grenade hit. We decide to n-close and move on. The Jet – I can’t get in without cover, Nevious goes in, says club is ok but we can sarge outside. We hit up some girls , some went well. One set was awesome. A cutie 24 blonde girl, she was SO nice. Totally adorable, talks to me for 5 minutes, admit she has a finance, and says, “you are really cool, you can totally pick up girls with that ring routine!”. Nevious tries to close, settles for giving her an email. Obviously a flake, but I was impressed that there are cute girls in Vegas that are cool. We open a one set. Asian hooker. Totally honest girl. Nevious tries to game. I talk to her about the subject of last night – how to game hookers. Her response was, “you can’t”. Why? “Because”, she explains, “there is no game there. It is business. It’s an exchange of money.”
Me: “But you can game strippers”
Hooker: “That’s because strippers are stupid”
Me: “How so?”
Hooker “They don’t realize that if they changed the way they talked, and some of the way they seduce guys they could be making a lot more money. They are conflicted and confused, prostitutes are what they are and we know what we are doing”
Hardcore.

I end up talking to Nevious for an hour afterwards to debrief. This guys is as analytical as me ,and I am staring to seriously respect his knowledge of the game. I learn that he’s been in the game for several years, as well as a few other things about him I will keep between us. We call it a night.

I felt weird, because I could not close in Vegas. However, the experience of meeting other PUAs and that are cool and J and Nevious was in and of itself a very satisfying feeling.

Tuesday
Date with HB Black girl we met on Saturday. I see her again. Great style, she’s a buyer in the fashion industry. I like her energy. Honestly, she was a 8/10 for a black girl. I don’t usually attract to black girls, so I give her a HB7/10. She’s great. She games me! We venue change to V-bar (I get social proof again from bartender and doorman) She shows me Parasol up (Awesome comfort game location) and Wynn, and 40/40 club – awesome hip hop music and great seating. I am starting to like this girl.

Pulling up to hotel room was easy, she gave some LMR and objections. I just said, “ok, if you have to go I understand. This is my last night here”. Full close was sweet. I can now confidently sayd I have been with a white, black and Asian girl.

Afterwards, she falls asleep in my bed. I turn around and contemplate and say my thanks. Just yesterday, I was going through some of the most serious conflict about my game. Today, I felt good. A lot of assistance and support came from VegasBabeHunter and and Nevious. These guys would say, “Alpha, you are a great PUA”. These guys I just met for 2 days believed more in me than I did in myself. I am not sure if I got lucky, or the power of the community is that strong. I believe that, given the cool character traits of these 2 guys I met, and the power of the internet, and the overall power that comes from being part of this community to understand human nature, I got some must needed help and reassurance to my game in Vegas. Moments like this makes me want to become a Master and help other people.

Learnings from Las Vegas Trip:
1. Overall, the quality and number of HBs are very high. Unnaturally high. 8 out of 10 girls were above a 7, and there were many HB9s and HB10s. This creates an unrealistic view of beauty, and some of the girls are nice. You learn to be comfortable around very hot women. Because of this, some of the UGs completely give up and you can see the major difference between the Vegas HBs, rich guys, cool guys, and a line drawn from them and the older retired vacationers, the kids, the UGs and the less cool dudes.

2. Know your locations. Hookers are abound, and your sarge location is just as important as your approach. There are the Vegas locals, the tourist destinations, the hooker destinations and the old retiree destinations. Pick the clubs that count. V-bar, Tao, Parasol Up, 40/40, Cat House are cool places, and have great events. Cat house on industry night – I swear every single girl in there was hot. I have never seen that many HB8s’s in one room.

3. Sometimes, you may feel great conflict in your game. I find these moments the toughest, and sometimes I being to doubt myself. You learn to reassess everything you have ever learned. These are the “tests”, I believe, that God throws at us to test our resolve. In my experience, the nights where I feel the most conflict were followed by the nights or changes in my life where I learned and progressed the most. Don’t give up.

4. Respect. Among PUAs who are not newbies anymore – I am starting to see appreciate for people who have devoted a significant portion of their life to game. The PUAs I met in Vegas were not only great PUAs, they were top notch people, along with their quirks, weaknesses, strengths and perseverance.

FR: Social Game & Lessons Learned Weekend

Friday 4/3/08

There’s a party at the W hotel in San Francisco. M, a friend I met at Google is throwing a bday party. She’s a cute Asian girl that I got along with when Mobius picked her up from a few weeks before. Since she does event planning for the company they had the whole 4th floor reserved. Good person to know.

I call up Serum, and he ends up signing up 2 other guys to come. I get a little angry – he should have told me first. Nevertheless, I wasn’t going to let this bother me. We are going to have a good night. D and B turn out to be cool cats.

We walk into the balcony at the W, and the game is on. B,D and Serum end up talking by themselves in a circle. I kind of was hoping this won’t happen but expecting it. I end up socializing as this is a part-work event too for me (There are other Googlers around). 2 set, one HB5 and the other HB8. I hook, and run Mehow alphabet routine. They laugh. Good social proof. I forward merge with another mixed set. No HBs. I hook a 3 set, isolate Blonde HB7. I run Matador’s hand routine, and we talk. She keeps talking about work so I joke about being a Janitor pre-IPO and now I clean Sergey and Larry’s bathroom. Later I reveal my real job which adds value. N-close her as she is leaving. Not sure if the number is solid, but I know its real since I called my phone with hers and made her leave a message, “Hi, I’m M.”
“M, what’s special about you?” – me
“Everything! haha” -HB

I talk to a few guys from anther company that M used to work for for networking purposes. Most of these guys are bitter about the IPO of their company and for the most part, it wasn’t fun talking to them.

I run into another aPUA, or thinking back, a guy who knew community language. “Kino” he noted as I ran my hands up an Asian girl. He ends up telling me how my mind will change when I am 35.. about his divorce.. wow. What a DOWNER!

I end up talking to 2 Asian girls and hook them (they are cousins). His girl starts leaning over HIM to talk to me. This was a sight to see. I end up talking to her in Chinese for 10 minutes and I had to cut it off only because I had some respect for this guy J who at least knew community slang. I ask him if it is ok to n-close. He replies, “absolutely not”. This was the first red flag about this dude not being a real PUA. “How do you guys know each other?”
Asian HB, “Oh we work together”. (2nd red flag)
I could have closed, but I didn’t. But I had to get out of there. This guy was telling me about his divorce and how this one Asian girl was the reason he got divorced. I exit. What a chump.

I hook another Asian set, 4HBs, 1 guy. I befriend the guy. The girls are feeling me. I run rabbit trick. They start giggling. Head Female (who also works for Google) gives me her number and asks me to join them at another bar. I hesitate, as I was there to see M and network. I then realized that I forgot my wallet. What a dumbass. I say, “maybe next time”.

Serum, B and J hit Marina, they weren’t feeling the scene.

That was it, the rest of the night went smoothly, I made birthday girl feel good, took a few pictures and DHV’d her to her friends. She’ll be an important person when she hooks me up with my own hotel on my birthday

Saturday 4/4/08
Birthday of B’s friend. B is a cool chick who is my “wing”. She’ll literally drag me to other girls and introduce me. She’s actually really good looking. Her face reminds of me Lela Star sometimes. Anyway, B is a “social butterfly” – as in, she moves around a lot and enjoys attending to people. Thus, though she kinos me hard, she never stays too long. This time, I always leave first. 2 fat blonde girls throw themselves around me as I enter. Great. I AI Mobius and we dance. I wasn’t really feeling them. Another 5 Asian girl set. These girls weren’t that hot, so I only made polite conversation.

For a while, we buy drinks, we converse with our social group. I had to go into the bathroom and rest, to acknowledge that the girls in my social group aren’t hot enough and we needed to use this social proof to open cold sets. I open a 4 set. ALL of these girls were HB8+. Credit to Lovedrop for this line. “hey guys, we have been asking everyone this today. I can only stay for a second, but “nobody puts baby in the corner”, which movie is that from? Blonde shouts out, “Dirty Dancing!” High five. Set sticks. I isolate HB9 brunette, she’s kind of boring. The other HB8 brunette gets bored, so I engage both. Mehow alphabet routine away. Blonde tries to pull them away (I think she’s getting angry since I opened her first and now I am focusing too much on her friends). I maintain my frame, and finish my routine. After that, I pause. They didn’t ask me any questions back, so I decide to eject and say I am going to look for my friends.

Later, B introduced me to the set again, and I say, I know these girls already. We talk with them for a while, but again, Blonde throws shit test, “let’s go dancing!”. I had to contain her, however, Mobius was no where to be seen, and actually, I couldn’t so I ejected with B. I end up kissing B but only on the lips and I say, “I really, really like you as a friend”. She agrees. I leave to find Mobius. He’s not doing well today.

I open an adjacent set, get girls name, introduce to Mobius. They hit it off. Good, I was going to engage her other 2 friends as I was afraid they may interrupt. However, I got pulled away by P, a cute HB8 Israeli girl (she looks Spanish). I met her once before at B’s party. She’s drunk. I pull her away to a table. I sit down. Run some hand routines. She’s really kinoing a lot, so I shut up and kino her back, and then push her. Credit to Mystery here for his in field video, I literally would kino her, and then push her away, and say, “ok that’s all you get”. P is a good looking girl, so after a while she pulled away too as if walking away. I pulled her back, and then it was on.

AlphaWolf: “Can you tell I have braces on?”
HB8: “no, really, I can’t even see”
PUA: “the first question I asked by dentist when I was getting these was, ‘will it be different kissing girls? And he said, ‘that’s the first question you can think of?”
HB8: haha
PUA: let me smell you. Do I smell too feminine?
HB: No. You smell good.
I lean in. Hold. Eye contact. Move back.
The second time I learned in the k-close was there. Light, no tongue. It is different with braces, even invis-align. I have to actually try harder in order to make the same amount of contact as before.

We goto Matrix. Usually I own here. Tonight, there were a lot of guys. More so than usual. I open high temperature girl in mixed set. She hooks. I introduce Mobius and they seem to get it on. I see the other 2 guys who bought them drinks and I talk to them for a while. The guy was cool, he said the girls were fair game and just friends. I end up hooking another HB9 brunette. She was drunk and barely coherent. Actually I got kind of turned off. She was so stupid. I eject. See bartender Matt at the end, ask for water. Come back. Mobius is in another 2 seated set. He was outside, and I noticed that he needed to be more locked in next time when he’s 10 minutes into a set. He introduces. Small Asian girl, I wasn’t interested. She was stuck up too! I run hand routine and she gets bored. Ends up picking up her cell phone and ignoring me. Wow. Amazing. I was a little pissed later but at that moment, I said, “Alright. You enjoy your phone.”. I stood up, and walked right to the next set next to them. Spin girl. I was in. Bachelorette party. Spanish HB Girl from Uruguay was introduced to me. I converse, but this one doesn’t hook. She leaves to dance 10 minutes in. On the way out, I get heavy eye contact from an older MILF who was, actually quite stunning. I ask the apparent guy next to her, “is this your girl”. He looks at me and answers with a very hostile tonality, “yes”. Asshole. So I decide to open anyway when he’s gone. Girl jumps right up and hooks. As I was talking to her, I get amogged. One of those really big, fat bald guys who ate too much pizza in college and never really got his brain into his head correctly touches by hair. I counter, touching his belly. “hey, take it easy man”. He ends up shaking my hand but in the distraction I had lost the girl as the crowd was pushing towards the exit. (I couldn’t lock in in time).

Outside, the original dude gives me a glare. I look at his in the eye. What’s up with this guy. Looks like he lost the girl too. They didn’t even know each other, I realized. That was it, Mobius and I call it a night.

Field Notes:

1. Driving to San Francisco is too far. We need to go out here in the south bay, and own here. I don’t care how we do it, I don’t care if the girls are not as hot. There are people in the middle states and non-coastal cities who have it worse than us. What about these PUAs? This is no excuse to not have game just because the ratio is off. The ratio will always be off, and a PUA can pickup a HB at a bar, no matter where you are. It is all in our heads.

2. On AMOGGING. Lovedrop was right. Although I personally do not enjoy AMOGGING, it has come to my attention that I need to master this area simply for the purpose of defending myself. Time to learn amogging skills.

3. Everyone has their on and off nights

4. My style has developed into a pretty solid stance. Get a leather jacket. You’ll see how it affects your behavior in field. Dye your hair. Color contrast is a sign of healthy genes in nature, and it has a subtle affect when done right. Shine your shoes, it matters. Earrings – I have fake ones, mostly due to the importance of maintaining my “work avatar”, but it makes a big difference in conveying sexually. All of these things came recently. I took a picture of myself, and honestly assessed it. “Would I date a guy like me?”. If I was a HB10 blonde girl, “would I date me?”. And the honest answer at the time was no. I still think the honest answer is no, but at least now, I have a shot. It was tough man making these assessments, but in terms of game, “looks” do matter. Your style also affects your behavior and body language. When you have girls eyeing you and you get compliments on your style, your body language will reflect your mindset. Mobius noted how confident my body language was compared to before tonight.

5. Create a life context first. Your life context must be greater than pickup itself. I will write more about this as it is an important part of making you less “results oriented” and more than just about laying girls in pickup. It’s hard to explain. For example, I literally wrote the following recently:

What I want out of Life:
1. I want to eventually quit the 9-5 thing. I will build something or work, but only with the option of walking away at any time. I want to become financially free.

2. I want to have strong friendships with women. Women who reflect the positive qualities of their gender.

3. I want to have the pickup skills and lifestyle to lay really hot girls. This has always been a dream of mine. My definition of a hot girl is a girl who would appear in men’s (and women’s) magazines. She models. She turns heads. She is physically stunning. I want to satisfy my desire to sexually connect with these women on a regular basis.

There were others, but do you see where I am going here? In creating the context for 3. I realized that I needed 1 and probably 2 as well in order to achieve 100% of my 3rd goal. Also, PU was not the most important thing. Should I improve and fail on 3., I know I have the smarts and tools to succeed at 1. It is only a matter of time. Thus, my life is about becoming a business leader and building a cool social foundation. Should I have those, I will also inherently achieve some success in my 3rd life context.