Re: RSD Hot Seat Event in SF

This is my first “bootcamp” experience of any kind, other than hanging out with Troy Dizon as a friend. I am not affiliated with RSD in any way, although I have been a fan of Tyler Durden’s work since the publication of the Blueprint.

Overall, the hotseat experience was amazing. The cost = $300 USD, well worth the money spent. The most insightful breakdowns happened when the videos were paused, and Tyler explained the subtleties of the pickup.

39. Intent is good, but Intent changes in intensity depending on whether you care or not. But you still need to remain OUTCOME INDEPENDENT. This happens with an abundance mentality. High intent + Non Outcome Dependence = Highly Effective Performance. This applies to many other areas of life.

From a parody thread on RSD Nation

Section 2: Videos I remembered and lessons learned
1. Tyler videos – I learned the importance of physically leading the girl. How they manhandle girls and carry her (even though Tyler admits he was out of shape). As a man that just conveys so much dominance and girls secretly want to be handled.
2. DUH DUH DUH. Talk for the sake of talking and filling the void / vacuum.
3. Video of Tyler with tall chick: showed the importance of understanding height, why it can matter and how to convey dominance otherwise
4. Video of Tyler getting angry as “silence of lambs” reference, and how sometimes we jeopardize ourselves. Our inner selfs are always shining through. Don’t take anything in the game seriously
5. Video of Tyler blowing out the CEO of the club: this was BIG one for me. Showing how money and status don’t mean shit. He was able to isolate this girl despite ALL social conditioning favoring the other dude. Tyler: “he had better looks than me, he was taller, he owned the club, threw the party, had the nice car, but he had no game.” Also, the lesson of “field intuition”. “For some strange reason I asked her how much she paid to get in. Looking back, I think my unconscious mind knew that if I brought that up, the guy would brag about it”. People lie. Test the assumptions. Never assume. Most guys are not boyfriends.
6. Video of Tyler gaming ‘good girl’: shows you how to engage adventurous self instead of conventional self
7. Video of Tyler daygaming and physically escalating during the day and meeting also meeting a very cool blond girl at the mall
8. Video of Tyler being fat and still pulling girls (i.e. looks don’t matter)
9. Video of Tyler pulling ADD chicks, “now that I’m a bit older, this is not necessarily my sort of thing, but you should know how to do it”. I laughed my ass off because I personally hate ADD girls but sometimes they are really hot. Tyler mutters to wing as they are walking: “stay on it”. It wasn’t until the girl said, “my apartment is over there” that he knew they were “in”
10. Jeffy videos: overall, just ridiculous over the top funny. The whole room was laughing so hard I think people forgot to take notes. What I remember is that Jeffy has SICK vocabulary and a very weird sense of humor. Girls either love him or hate him. But he either gets it FULL on or girls totally hate him. But he is never forgettable.
11. Jeffy telling a girl to f off and kill herself (lol)
12. Jeffy banging chicks in the **** van
13. Jeffy in person
(These were all unique experiences for me lol. I didn’t get star struck with Tyler or Papa or even Herbal but I was a bit star struck with Jeffy.)
14. Tyler shows videos of Ryan and Alex to juxtaposition the types of game: “even though our styles are different, the underlying principles that are at work are the same”
15. Ryan: Cool laid back vibe, pinpointing moments where he turned from FRIEND to FRIEND to MAN to WOMAN
16. Alex: The idea of overriding autopilot responses, and leading with NO chips in the armor as far as confidence goes. Assume success already.
17. Tyler showing us some “ok” scenes: “somethings it is like an audition. She’s listening to you but you haven’t swayed her either way. Don’t give up. Keep going”. “When I do well on my demos students are like ‘ WOW” and they can’t relate, sometimes when I get blown out it gives them permission to get blown out and they do better”. It is ok pickup is like real life. Sometimes its clunky sometimes its not clean but keep at it. Don’t take it too seriously.”

Group Exercises
1. Saying something boring in an AWESOME way. It is not what you say, it is how you say it. The idea of being “too cool” for young girls. But everyone just wants to “FUN TALK” in the bar. It is not about logic. Learning to relate on this level
2. Improv skills – the ability to let your mind flow and come up with things on the spot (Improv class highly recommended)
3. The most useful exercise: having 3 other guys shout and push you and put “PRESSURE” on you while you state boldly what you learned in the 10 hour session today. This was the most useful exercise for me. It shows you how to deal with social pressure and stand your ground.

Section 3: Lessons I personally took most to heart
1. During a break I asked Owen a personal question that has been on my mind as of late. He greeted me warmly. I asked him, “You know, lately pick up just feels like a chore to me. At what point did it become fun for you?” He smiled and said, “I understand. Well. Keep watching.” I stood there for a second, nodding. I was expecting a bit more and he sensed it. So he continued, “Keep watching the rest of the videos. We are only halfway through. And maybe you’ll find something that will inspire you and make it fun.” He said this in a very chilled out manner, like it wasn’t a big deal. The lesson I personally learned from this was that he didn’t make a big deal out of it like I was kind of projecting onto him. He wasn’t trying to “convince” me or project onto me this big challenge or whatnot. I walked away thinking about it and I think the point Owen trying to communicate to me was, “that’s ok. Hopefully you will find something that inspires you soon, in this program or otherwise”.
2. I underestimated the power of physical escalation and the MAN to WOMAN type of relating to a girl.
3. One of the Jeffy videos showed a short Asian dude pulling girls. I was impressed because I was always believed a little bit about this “race” thing (and honestly I still do think it matters a bit) but he was making out with hot tall white girls so that was impressive.
4. Jeffy’s parody was fucking hilarious. He says in one video that pickup is all a lie and the reason he gets laid is because of his model looks. This is right before he shows us a clip of him jamming the escalator steps at the mall and in between cut scenes from his “r*** van”
5. Tyler and Papa were there will 2am. When we finished it was about 1:55am. The seminar was supposed to go from 2pm to 10pm. They stayed for 4 hours because I think Jeffy was an extra they added for SF only (thanks again) and also that Tyler wanted a great program. You can tell. This is guy who takes pride in his work and really wants to help these guys learn. This is my first RSD in-person program. Honestly I was expecting a lot of chodey guys (at least some) but the caliber of the guys I met were awesome. Towards the end, after getting high from Jeffy’s craziness I think the group died down a little. A lot of the guys I spoke to were impressed but definitely very drained and tired. I could see it in Tyler’s eyes too but this guy just keeps on pushing. He was pushing us to go along with him all the way till the end. Standing ovation was well deserved. Papa was sitting close to me and he’s watching and making sure everything is ok. UZ was there too (friend of mine). Big thanks to the whole crew for making sure everything ran smoothly. A lot of guys don’t get “stage” time but they deserve credit for their work in putting together this event.
6. Herbal never got that Wallaby that was written about in The Game
7. Tyler tried to drill this into our heads but I think this has to be experienced. The footage helps. Video is the closest thing we have to real life right now. I remember the quote, “money, status, a good body, yes, it is nice to obtain those as your personal goals and journey. But do that for the sake of yourself. Never let any of these things that, through social conditioning have been implanted on you as must haves in order to get the woman you want. Don’t EVER let that be a restriction on what you believe you are entitled to in life.”
8. Tyler: “when we die we can’t take our bodies, wealth or status with us. If you believe in life after death then all we have on this journey is our character and the person we have evolved to be. At the end of the day that is the most important thing”
9. Overall, a sense of wonderment. These guys do this for a living. There is a next level. It is clean, precise, and fun. Tyler: “learning cold approach pickup is like learning basketball in the 1930′s. Only a handful of the population are good at this and even if you are just intermediate you will do well”
10. Jeffy: “After we banged, this girl was walking along the street asking homeless bums for cocaine.”
11. Jeffy: “As you can see… she [girl he banged] looks like a psychotic chipmunk”
12. Herbal, Papa, Tyler were all really cool. I greeted them with their real names and fame and fortune didn’t make them jaded. They treated everyone like a real person. I really liked this, I liked the authenticity. I didn’t get to say hi to Jeffy. I was nervous that I might be secretly attracted to him.

Suggestions for improvement:
1. In the end session the room got really hot
2. Water and glasses ran out towards the end
3. I came in late so maybe I missed this but I honestly wonder how to footage was gathered and the legality around it. Personally, I find it reasonable and very educational. But I can imagine if I was related to one of the girls how I may be concerned if… my sister is being filmed and whatnot. It kind of feels like we are exposing the secret society a little bit and I feel a bit guilty.

by Tyler Durden

Tyler Durden talks about the secret world of the player.

Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I’ve seen. I’m also posting in a semi-satirical tone – I haven’t gone off the deepend….. yet…

A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.

Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.

Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.

What I’m talking about is the sex secret society – and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.

SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:

1) Don’t talk about the secret society.

2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.

3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like “all men are dogs”. Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.

4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.

5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.

6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.

7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.

It’s OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. “It doesn’t count”.

9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A slut is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.

10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.

WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?

Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:

1) Their own sexual needs.

2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.

3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible (“players”).

The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.

Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.

They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They’re part of the secret society too, so they can’t be left out.

EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):

1) If you tell a girl that you’re gay, and that you want to “see what it feels like to be with a girl”, she’ll sleep with you. She won’t insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You’re part of the secret society, where condoms aren’t necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.

2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target “I’m really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight”, she’ll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she’ll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.

3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren’t direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she’ll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she’s looking for a relationship.
PUA: “I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life”..
HB: “Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too.”
PUA: “Really? Cause to be honest, I’ve always felt like I’m a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won’t cheat.”
HB: “I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I’m always loyal.”
PUA: “But didn’t you say…”
HB: “No, I said nothing.”
PUA: “No, you said that you don’t let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want.”
HB: “No, I didn’t mean that. I’m not a slut. I have no idea what you’re talking about, I didn’t say that.”

4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you’re a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a slut in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.

5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They’ll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they’ve fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.

6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn’t like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is “creepy/scary” (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.

THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:

The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don’t understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.

Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is “sexual aggression”. They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.

They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread – “this is how to get chicks”.

Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.

What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.

They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.

They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.

They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.

They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won’t be interfered with.

Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.

(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn’t take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don’t need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive – not receptive – so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).

They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).

Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)

Trust = not telegraphing interest

Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she’s ready)

Don’t tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.

Tyler Durden